# К нам приехал, к нам приехал... TechDas AirForce V

**URL:** <https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400>\
**Category:** TechDas\
**Tags:** techdas\
**Created:** [02.Март.2019 16:45:21 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400 "2019-03-02T16:45:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 16:45:21 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/1 "2019-03-02T16:45:21Z")

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**Author:** ![French](https://www.hififorum.org/user_avatar/www.hififorum.org/french/32/79122_2.png) [@French](https://www.hififorum.org/u/French)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 16:53:09 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/2 "2019-03-02T16:53:09Z")

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Пока тонарм не прикрутил, можно приклеить на диск несколько светодиодов на батарейках - и крутить, крутить… В темноте ?

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 17:09:51 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/3 "2019-03-02T17:09:51Z")

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Тонарм только завтра планируем

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**Author:** ![olster99](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/5e9695/32.png) [@olster99](https://www.hififorum.org/u/olster99)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 17:27:36 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/4 "2019-03-02T17:27:36Z")

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> 17 минут назад, Swissspear1626278322 сказал:
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> Тонарм только завтра планируем

Какой тонарм и голова будет?

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 17:38:23 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/5 "2019-03-02T17:38:23Z")

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Sme IV, Emt HSD 006

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 19:23:26 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/6 "2019-03-02T19:23:26Z")

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Два часа однако собирали только одну вертушку - без тонарма

Конструктор ого-го

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**Author:** ![olster99](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/5e9695/32.png) [@olster99](https://www.hififorum.org/u/olster99)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 19:49:50 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/7 "2019-03-02T19:49:50Z")

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Голову можно было и посерьёзнее подобрать под такой стол.

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**Author:** ![okok](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@okok](https://www.hififorum.org/u/okok)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 20:24:52 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/8 "2019-03-02T20:24:52Z")

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Сверху - это что стекло и акриловый клемп??? Или это декоративная накладка?

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 20:27:36 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/9 "2019-03-02T20:27:36Z")

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> 2 минуты назад, okok сказал:
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> Сверху - это что стекло и акриловый клемп??? Или это декоративная накладка?

пылезащитная крышка - в комплекте для защиты вакуумного прижима диска

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 20:29:30 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/10 "2019-03-02T20:29:30Z")

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> 38 минут назад, olster99 сказал:
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> Голову можно было и посерьёзнее подобрать под такой стол.

Мне очень нравится EMT TSD-15, на мой взгляд она круче многих голов с впятеро большим прайсов

006 брал не глядя, посмотрим, что получится - как наследница TSD-15

вот по ней интересный отчет&nbsp;[https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-192-koetsu-ortofon-emt](https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-192-koetsu-ortofon-emt)

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [02.Март.2019 21:16:50 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/11 "2019-03-02T21:16:50Z")

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At one point during these proceedings, I reinstalled my EMT TSD 15 moving-coil pickup head ($1950), which for years has been my primary reference stereo cartridge even more than has my Shindo SPU. The TSD 15 is truly the greatest phono-cartridge all-arounder I’ve heard: It could please the most neurotic, soundstaging-concerned audiophile you’ve ever met, while at the same time satisfying the most discriminating of vintage-audio fanatics (though the latter would surely never admit it).

To put things in perspective: My TSD 15 didn’t communicate substance as well as the SPU Wood A, and it didn’t have as much color or texture as the Koetsu. And with the EMT pickup at the end of my EMT arm, plucked double-bass notes weren’t as&nbsp;_plucky_&nbsp;as with the Wood A—but they had more force than with any other cartridge I know that’s this compliant (the EMT tracks at 2.5gm).

But with the TSD 15—the model number derives from the radius, in microns, of its spherical stylus tip—those notes had the most gorgeous and believably colorful sustain, often endowed with an actual sense of the note blooming and developing, even if note decays were sometimes slightly overlong. Also, the EMT TSD 15 provided very good soundstage depth and reasonably good image specificity, if not up to the Koetsu’s standards—and nothing else in this column exceeded the TSD 15’s incredibly good sense of musical flow.

Read more at [https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-192-koetsu-ortofon-emt-page-2#xkXwexHoLsVIklEE.99](https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-192-koetsu-ortofon-emt-page-2#xkXwexHoLsVIklEE.99)

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Fitted to an Arché headshell, attached to my EMT 997 tonearm, and driving my EMT-specific Auditorium 23 Hommage T2 transformer, the HSD 006 at first surprised me by being unsurprising: It sounded&nbsp;_very_&nbsp;much like a TSD 15. The newest EMT was characterized by a natural warmth—not a timbral tilt, but an exceedingly subtle richness of tone, in voices and instruments alike. Its tonal balance was neither bright nor dull: very good bass extension was balanced by a treble range notably more extended than the TSD 15’s, but not excessively so. There was never anything metallic, plasticky, tizzy, or glassy about the HSD 006’s sound. One of my first notes: “It sounds like a TSD 15, but a little more modern. All of the old model’s strengths are here, but with an increase in detail.”  
Read more at [https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-192-koetsu-ortofon-emt-page-2#xkXwexHoLsVIklEE.99](https://www.stereophile.com/content/listening-192-koetsu-ortofon-emt-page-2#xkXwexHoLsVIklEE.99)

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [03.Март.2019 16:59:37 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/12 "2019-03-03T16:59:37Z")

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**Author:** ![user21](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/6bbea6/32.png) [@user21](https://www.hififorum.org/u/user21)\
**Post date:** [03.Март.2019 17:32:45 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/13 "2019-03-03T17:32:45Z")

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Красивый!&nbsp;?

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [03.Март.2019 17:33:33 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/14 "2019-03-03T17:33:33Z")

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**Author:** ![user245](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/e95f7d/32.png) [@user245](https://www.hififorum.org/u/user245)\
**Post date:** [03.Март.2019 18:22:47 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/15 "2019-03-03T18:22:47Z")

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Ну и …? EMT отдыхает?

Интересно, как он скорость держит? Надо будет тебе мой лазер одолжить.

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [03.Март.2019 20:35:58 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/16 "2019-03-03T20:35:58Z")

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Очень большой потенциал

Звук уже нравится

Грею головку и корректор

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [03.Март.2019 20:36:52 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/17 "2019-03-03T20:36:52Z")

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Касательно скорости он перед стартом каждого воспроизведения указывает текущую скорость и 20-30 сек корректирует ее до абсолютной точности

заезжай с лазером - проверим замеры

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**Author:** ![olster99](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/5e9695/32.png) [@olster99](https://www.hififorum.org/u/olster99)\
**Post date:** [04.Март.2019 05:49:51 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/18 "2019-03-04T05:49:51Z")

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> 9 часов назад, Swissspear1626278322 сказал:
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> Очень большой потенциал
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> Звук уже нравится
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> Грею головку и корректор

Что же будет нулевым Техдасом и топовой головой?&nbsp;?

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**Author:** ![Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Swissspear](https://www.hififorum.org/u/Swissspear)\
**Post date:** [04.Март.2019 06:58:31 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/19 "2019-03-04T06:58:31Z")

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> 1 час назад, olster99 сказал:
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> Что же будет нулевым Техдасом и топовой головой?&nbsp;?

КОСМОС!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![rayman](https://www.hififorum.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e495f1/32.png) [@rayman](https://www.hififorum.org/u/rayman)\
**Post date:** [04.Март.2019 09:14:11 UTC](https://www.hififorum.org/t/techdas-airforce-v/1400/20 "2019-03-04T09:14:11Z")

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> 2 часа назад, Swissspear1626278322 сказал:
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> КОСМОС!!! ?

Это к Мурату&nbsp; ? !

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